Jan 30/2015
Subject: Chevy Lowrider Car, Truck or Lead
Sled
I posted this Lowrider Chevy Tattoo on my site several weeks ago
and noticed that a greater explanation and some examples of the actual vehicles
needed to be explained. By the way , this sign is located in Las Vegas Nevada and says welcome to Las Vegas.
A Better Explanation of These Types of Cars and Modifications:
So here
it is in a Nutshell.
I noticed these types
of Modifications many years ago. Specifically a friend of mine did a half mod
where he lowered the rear only and lifted the front end. The car was a Pontiac
Lemans T37. Engine was a 350cu in Chevy Engine with a 2barrel Carb and 250 hp.
What he did was drop the rear and Raise the front by changing the
front coil springs from a heavier vehicle, so the front was actually about 5
inches higher. Anyways this was his attempt.
Lowriders speak about using hydraulics and thus these hydraulic
cylinders would be located in an area that could change the height differential
in the front and rear suspension of the vehicles. The unique thing about these
mods is that you could literally make the car jump a couple of feet in the air
from the ground when using the remote controls which are connected to the
hydraulics.
You could make it lift any side of the car you wanted. There are
competitions to see which vehicle goes the highest. I have seen these on TV.
When i think about lowriders, i am brought to the time when long
bodied cars were modified , customized in some other way such as paint,
chopping the roof line several inches or more and of course modifying the
engine for more hp. Lead Sled is another term which maybe older than the term
lowrider.
So let’s talk about how to drop an older car and make it into a
lowrider. Lowrider, lead sled is not an exact science, so pretty much anything
goes, just as long as it works and the visual effect is there once it is
completed.
Let’s start with the new term in the dictionary which my tattoo
picture has a direct link to it. The car would be using hydraulics to lower and
raise the car. I read this setup was first taken from hydraulics used on airplanes.
Somehow it was custom made to tailor it for automotive use. These cylinders
would be placed somewhere in between the control arms and or the frame and the
suspension.
Probable locations could be between the solid axle on the rear
inside the coils springs and in-between the front coil springs. There are other
ways these days to make a lowrider and that is by using air bags with
pumps as a lift kit. I think this kit is more economical, but of course I don’t
know how it would compete with a hydraulic version. I heard that you cannot
drive the vehicle with it lowered too much or the air bags will fail early.The hydraulic
version would definitely be harder to install and set up in comparison to costs
involved with an air bag version. I've seen the air bag lowering kits
advertised for about $400 dollars for the front and rear. But this is just the
cost of these parts. There may be other costs involved when all things are
taken into the equation.
Remember that if you are not doing it yourself, the labor costs
will probably be more than the cost of the kit. I once installed a gabriel hijacker’s
air shocks kit on one of my cars and I really liked the way it came out. This
was not a lowrider, but a lift kit. This was necessary because I bought some
big monster rear tires and had to clear the wheel wells.
Dropped spindles are available and many engineered lower coil
springs are used every day by the enthusiasts to get the look they desire. If
you use these by themselves you could get up to a 3 inch drop or combine them
with a spindle or control arm and you could get more drop. Be aware that when
you drop the springs, you will lose travel and thus ride quality and must use
different shocks to compensate for the changes in travel.
Don't forget to check clearances for the exhaust system, wheel
wells, and pinch points on hoses for brake lines and fuel lines. The older
vehicles which had I beam construction for the front end and rear leaf springs
could be lowered simply by changing the position of the rear axle tube and
instead of the tube riding on top of the springs in the rears, the tube would
be put on top of the springs and thus an immediate 4 to 5 inch drop could be realized.
Some people have even just changed the arc in the leaf springs, so as not to
have that much of a curve and instead be more straight.
Again as mentioned above, many things would have to be looked at
to make this a safe lowering of the vehicle. My motto always is and has been
SAFETY FIRST. And if you are using old parts and they look worn out , then, when
in doubt, throw it out. Not to mention, who would want to go through all the
trouble to get at something in a bad spot for the sake of using an old part and
saving a few dollars.
Remember, these are things that I have seen , done and heard of
doing. When doing this by yourself, do your research on the subject first, look
at examples , get professional advice .These days there are many things that
can be done and depending on your budget and how mechanically inclined your
are, then this should be quite an experience for you.
Good Luck,
and Stay Safe.
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Wow , since I am a Car and Engine High Horsepower kind of a guy, I really enjoy that you posted this . This brings back memories . I also heard that you have got another one on the fire and your are working on it? That will be something to see when it's done. I like any Blogs like this with mention of mods, rebuilds , increasing H.P etc. Thanks www.gwansoonleetattoo.com
ReplyDeleteActually , I noticed that some of the details were a little vague. But I get your point anyhows. I can give still find some things like this around regarding the old I beam type front ends? Yeah , especially the old pick-up trucks from the 50's. Cool.
ReplyDeleteSince you also mentioned the Air bags, I do remember a friend I worked with had an old Lincoln , I think and his car came with air ride suspension from the factory. While I was thinking about this I was wondering if somebody could scavange these bags from a wreck and use them for a lowrider--- just thinking out loud here.
ReplyDeleteOh by the way, I heard mention of T37 for the Pontiac you were talking about. But I also heard that in a book there was also a GT37. I don't know if this is correct , but I heard it any ways. I heard that those T37's were pretty fast off the line. Even with just the 250hp engine.
ReplyDeleteI guess this really hits a nerve for me because a friend I had actually put this car in the Ditch and then the car was dog-tracking. What a shame. Because the body work was mint. They should have kept the car and fixed it. Although I don't know how much it would have cost to fix this issue. You have to put the frame in a hydraulic press.
ReplyDeleteThis is a treat to see, and I would like to mention that these cars are a plenty in the dry climates like California, Nevada, Florida etc. I have seen a lot of custom rods and yes some of them use a combination of some of the things mentioned in your blog.
ReplyDeleteHi Gwansoon , hey I really like the Blog you got. My brothers are all into Cars, so of course they helped me with my car. I don't know any where near as much as them but , I can talk the talk if I need to. I've seen a lot of the cars you mentioned in my brothers books.
ReplyDeleteI thought I would give you a little reply with what I know. Thanks for sharing and I shall share with you.
Hi Gwansoonlee, how are you, I thought I would give you a comment on the Lowrider. I knew a guy that actually had one and this thing could jump about 2ft or more. It was nice to see you put this up , I will comment on some of the other things mentioned in the blog. I like it a lot and see you later. F.S
ReplyDeleteI think I actually got a old photo of me pulling out an engine from a poncho T37. I will upload it when I find the thing.
ReplyDeleteHey , if I don't , I have some other photos of our old cars. I'm standing beside my 69 Chevelle SS 396 with 375hp. It's got the solid lifters in it. I hope I'm not boring you too much, but I had a lot of fun growing up with all of my toys. Astro Ventillation, Console Shifter, bucket seats, and a 400 turbo transmission. Oh, and a limited slip diff.
ReplyDeleteI just thought I would give you a hello gwansoon. I love the car tattoo.
ReplyDeleteHello and nice to see someone I know in these blogs. How are you gwansoonlee and Dominique. This is public , so you should see all of my posts. I like the Tattoo of the car. It reminds me of my Older brothers car, he had some kind of hot rod similar to this. I remember it was very loud and woke up the neighbours a lot.
ReplyDeleteThose poor neighbours, I remember smelling Bacon and Eggs coming from their home practically every day. That neighbor had and old ford galaxie . He also had a brother that had the exact same car. I kind of got off topic. But both cars were the galaxie fords.
ReplyDeleteHi Gwansoon Lee how are things? I have to put my two cents in. My uncle had this big 69 Buick Riviera and that would have made one heck of a Lowrider. Although it already was too low to work on. The Buick had a 430cu in, 4brl. Around 360 hp. and man that thing was fast. I remember once going down the 400 with a bus behind me, so I decided to floor it. That thing went to 90 m p h in about 2 seconds. You just got sucked right into the seats. What a ride.
ReplyDeleteI also remember my dad had this big 59 Pontiac Strato Chief with the 409 cu in engine. He once passed about 8 tractor trailers in a row with this car. Another fast car. One time the exhaust manifold had a leak and exhaust fumes were coming out of the steering column. Wow , I never saw anything like that before. Whew.............
ReplyDeleteHe had to get rid of the Poncho because the reverse gear was broken. No reverse. Anyhow we had a lot of fun with all of our cars.
ReplyDeleteOh did I fail to mention that The Lowrider Tattoo is Awesome, ingenious. Someone picked something real cool. But it wouldn't be cool unless you did it. A wonderful Job. The highlights on the Chrome for that 62 Chev are something. Now I want one. Can you do chrome sidepipes like the 65 Vette Split Window? I know you can. take care, ill be popping in sometime soon.
ReplyDeleteI used to have an old rod back in the day and still get a thrill when stomping on the pedal.
ReplyDeleteWhile reading the many other posts, it looks like i am the one with the small engine. Oh well, not all of us have the big engine cars and trucks. Did i mention that i like 4wd 4x4's . I think they are something.
ReplyDeleteMy friend and her brothers have a lot of this type of related stuff. They run some kind of a shop and do a lot of Machine Work. I always like to see something out of the norm, not something you see everyday all day. Do you know what I mean?
ReplyDeleteThis is a great rendering of those older style cars. Quite unique to say the least. You just don't see them much except in swap meets and car meets. Actually use to be a lot of those if they still are at CTire. Don't want to give them free advertising so you know the rest.
ReplyDeleteThese are just as cool as the big galaxies 500's or the Torino GT's with the 390 cubes. Add some led lights under the body or frame and you got a nice show at night.
ReplyDeleteProbably could fool somebody into thinking you were a UFO from far away if you had the Chasing light program while you were driving. maybe a big distraction and you would get pulled over............oh, oh,
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